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NPR Newsletter No.18

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Vexations,

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thanks for helping with eliza douglas page... anne imhof needs work! see u around ~~ Rgm38 (talk) 22:20, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality articles around visual arts and its people, such as Texte zur Kunst in 2014, The Boating Party in 2017 and Eugène Murer in 2018, for a to-do-list as a user page, for requesting references and adding categories and assessments, for supporting trust of the community, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2259 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, wow Vexations (talk) 16:43, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Our pleasure ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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Vexations (talk) 12:10, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
You put these on your own talkpage? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:16, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I know it looks weird. I submitted and subsequently accepted the draft, because the createor had not resubmitted it after it was declined. Because I have great confidence that the article would survive an AfD, ( I know a little bit about Duchamp and his entourage), I decided that it was not necessary to keep it in the AfD queue any longer. Feel free to revert me if you feel I violated any policies. Vexations (talk) 13:24, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
I do not, I just can't keep my mouth shut. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:25, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for taking the time to support my candidacy at RfA. Know that you're definitely missed at NPP and I hope you'll find your interests wondering back that way sometime in the future. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:55, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #10

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Thanks for the request. I enjoyed learning about this artist!

Tdslk Thanks for your edits, they're very welcome improvements. Vexations (talk) 12:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

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Adrian Stimson

Hello! I was half way through creating a stub for Adrian Stimson when I discovered you already have a much better start-class draft going. I added two collections I found; you already had everything else I found. I leave it to you. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:05, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

ThatMontrealIP, OK, I'll see what I can do. It's disconcerting, but not surprising, to see that AA has an article, as does John Tims, but neither Adrain Stimson|Stimson]], nor Old Sun do. I'd like to find some more references. Your help is much appreciated. Vexations (talk) 02:22, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

You might like

I thought you might enjoy this Maurizio Cattelan interview, where someone has been hired to pretend to be Cattelan.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 00:06, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

ThatMontrealIP, nice :). Vexations (talk) 00:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


Hi @Vexations: Re: Universal Constructivism. It was a link I put in, it wasn't changing the underlying link. I dIo notice is linking a redirect @ Anthropophagy (art) which links to Manifesto Antropófago. So it can't be left as linking to a redirect. scope_creepTalk 22:09, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Scope creep, I created that redirect Anthropophagy (art) so that we could point to the article about the manifesto. Universal constructivism, as I hope you'll appreciate, is not influenced by the actual consumption of human flesh, but rather by the Manifesto written by de Andrade, who uses the term metaphorically. I what I did confuses our readers, perhaps a better solution is to link to Manifesto Antropófago directly. Thanks, Vexations (talk) 23:53, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Yip, I think a direct link would be ideal. Interesting article though. I'm very widely read but almost nothing on that side of the Atlantic. Was it widely read? The idea of channelling tribal rites as a metaphor for cannibalising both physical and organic cultural aspects and ideas of another society is probably unique to that location, but the idea of cannibalising the ideas of other nations, of trying to emulate them, to adapt them, is not. It is a time-test cultural trope, if such a thing could be said to exist. I find it immensely interesting the mindbogglingly complex nature of human society. The fact they were untouched by war, coloured it. scope_creepTalk 00:12, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Scope creep, sounds good. The history of early modernism in South America is fascinating. My Spanish, unfortunately, isn't good enough to do any serious work in that area. Vexations (talk) 00:35, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


I was going to make up my own card with either this or this, but it veered too far away from true wiki work. Happy holidays! ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:01, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

I went ahead and created something a little less eye-cringing. Only a little less.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:32, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Sweet Brown Snail by Jason Rhoades and Paul McCarthy

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Thank you for all your edits and contributions this year.
Wishing you a happy holiday!
ThatMontrealIP (talk)

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Merry Christmas, Vexations!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.Onel5969 TT me 23:26, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Fascinating accidental artist...

See Emma Hauck. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:25, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Interesting. I was unaware of Hauck. Her work reminds me of that of Hanne Darboven. Vexations (talk) 04:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

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Andy Ngo, editor at large

Vexations, since there has been a lot of back and forth reverting recently I decided it might be better just to comment here vs revert your good faith edit here [[1]]. It got me looking and I agree that the "about us" page doesn't mention Ngo. However, recent articles published by PM that mention Ngo say he is editor at large. For example this one is less than 24 hr old [[2]]. In the body of the article it says Ngo is editor at large. I think that would count as verified. Just thought I would let you know. Springee (talk) 20:27, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Springee, it is a very strange title to give to an editor who is new to the publication. As far as I can tell, Ngo has contributed 8 articles to the Post Millenial in the three months that he has been there. Typically, the title is reserved for an editor who has a long history with a publication, and remains associated, albeit not as full-time staff. I think it's worth clarifying that Ngo is not part of the full-time editorial staff, but a freelance contributor with a fancy title. Vexations (talk) 21:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I have no idea what Ngo's real relationship is. I think it's 100% accurate to say the PM calls him Editor-at-large. What that work actually involves... no idea and your concerns could be very valid. However, I don't think we should leave a tag that questions the title since the PM is currently using it. It would probably be worth raising a question on the talk page. Springee (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Roger Steinmann, self-published sources

Vexations, thanks for checking Roger Steinmann. I’m new, therefore I need some support in addressing the issue. Is it the

  • The facts Roger Steinmann writes about himself on his own page,
  • The news-paper clips and documents he has posted or
  • Both of it?

I’ve seen Self-published sources, but to be honest, I’ve focused more on the second part Using the subject as a self-published source: "There are living persons who publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites. Such material may be used..."

Bullet 1.-4. looks fine to me. Is it 5.? Or is it other things?

What can I do to fix this? Can you please help?

Thanks, Ogcgn (talk) 06:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Ogcgn, It's things like this:,,,_WGA.JPG, For example shows that Steinmann won a Fujica single 8 C100. If no independent, reliable source took notice of such an award, it really doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Sources should have been published by reputable publishers. Of course, it's fine to provide a link to a copy of a published source, if it doesn't violate any copyrights. A source like for example, is fine. It just doesn't mention Steinmann. Vexations (talk) 13:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Vexations, I have addressed a lot of issues... please see Talk:Roger_Steinmann. May you please have another look if this goes in the right direction? Thanks. Ogcgn (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Data Ladder I believe you just inadvertently added your !vote contribution near the top of the discussion rather than at the end past the relist and you may wish to correct that. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Djm-leighpark, thanks, I used reply-link, which adds a reply below the text I respond to, but not necessarily in chronological order, if other replies aren't indented correctly. It usually works well on XfDs too. I'll fix my reply. Vexations (talk) 11:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


So this whole spam thing is a little more sinister than I thought. There are two addresses they are using and two phone numbers, both of which the phone numbers and addresses belong to a deceased woman. Praxidicae (talk) 21:04, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Praxidicae, ew... be careful. Vexations (talk) 21:10, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
heres a semi full list I just found. Praxidicae (talk) 21:22, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Good job. I have converted your list to utilise ((LinkSummary)) as it is used here, and there is an equivalent for metawiki, which will enable quick blacklisting.
@Praxidicae: if we suspect corruption, especially illegal rather than immoral, then I think that we should be notifying Legal. They can watch and take control when/if/as they need to do so. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Billinghurst I actually had that thought earlier but I already filed an FTC report about fraud and sent additional info to the FBI. While paid editors are certainly using this shitspam as sources they aren't, or at least I assume not, the creator of these sites. I'll talk with you more about it offwiki. :) Praxidicae (talk) 13:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Praxidicae, stuff like [3] is written by an AI, though, isn't it? It takes only a few minutes to create a wordpress site that way. Vexations (talk) 13:40, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes, but you'll notice several of the sites from the first set we talked about also include semi-well written "articles" about perennial vanity spammers because they flood those outlets with content about them in between the shitty spam posts. As an example, we know Californiaherald is a completely fake news site, yet this article about a spammer here is mostly legible. They supplement everything between actual spam bursts about what I can only assume are clients with the spambot gibberish because many people, particularly outside of Wikipedia don't tend to be critical of sources on social media, so it's basically citogenesis in the form of churnalism. Praxidicae (talk) 13:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Praxidicae, I've always thought that the spammers adopted a technique that reputation management firms have developed to drown out negative coverage of their subjects. That's where the money is, after all. These non-celebrities don't have any money, they need cheap solutions. It troubles me more that quasi-reputable sources pick up these stories. It reminds me of the incredible success of Operation Infektion. Vexations (talk) 14:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
There is so much wrong with all of this I don't even know where to begin. I've gone down the rabbit hole of finding other clearly black hat SEO fake news sites thanks to the use particularly of oneworldherald. Take a look at my fake news userpage now...this is going to require a LOT of cleanup and a ton of blacklisting. Praxidicae (talk) 14:07, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Praxidicae, Vexations, and ThatMontrealIP: Strategy from here is to document what we have for presentation to the community and clearly document a consensus that these sources, and others like them, are out of scope not for Wikipedia, and maybe suggest that they are not for Wikimedia. (We know that this is going to become bigger in a media sense.) If the latter is concluded, we take it to m:talk:spam blacklist. To this point for this spamhaus it is predominantly enWP from my quick xwiki analysis, though seeing some stuff at the other wikis. The community will also need to think about how we manage notability for influencers, it is almost a step further on wrt BLP.

Tactically, we start tidying articles. We also start looking and categorising the refspam houses so we can better understand what they were doing, and watch them morph. There will be more than one will be my guess, what we are seeing is the most mature; or maybe just the most used, and least hidden. I still feel a flag to WMF would be useful somewhere in this process.

Praxidicae, are you comfortable hosting the discussion alongside the build list, or can you think of a better place to build that analysis and discussion? — billinghurst sDrewth 21:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

 Comment: When looking at some of these articles, and asking some questions of a couple of link users, I would say that there are elements a quiet game going on here. Push the stuff out as puff pieces with the end game that media, article writers (publicists and Joe Public) just grap it and use it as it is on the web ... so truth, so part of the issue is that reflection and assessment of reliable sources. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:47, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst:, you had the word push exactly right. I came across this service, called "Pusher", which does exactly what you are describing for music sites. Pay $99 and they will push your material to multiple sites. I got there scrutinizing sources used in Draft:Yes Please (band)‎.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:20, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

[4] Best comment I've read this year! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:40, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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fake news websites

Hi. I hope you are doing well. Do you think we should post at RSN to seek consensus to ban some particular websites from being used as sources? There is a configuarion, if you try to use a banned website, it triggers a filter and the edit cant be saved. What are your thoughts regarding this? I think it is better to than arguing at AfD. Do you have any websites in mind? Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 02:06, 22 February 2020 (UTC)


I just went through and sent a bunch of NPP invites today. You came up in my list based on the criteria I was querying, but I knew you were already aware of the project (obviously), so didn't send one to you, but I see you've requested it back again anyway. Cheers mate, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Insertcleverphrasehere, I've been upgrading some of my tools to quickly evaluate the sources in an article. Trying to get them to work with User:Headbomb/unreliable.json. How are your python skills? Vexations (talk) 22:37, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Vexations, none sorry :/ — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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Fine analysis

This was far from being the first time I've been impressed or indeed astounded by the amount of research you're prepared to do into sources in a routine AfD – Chapeau!, as the Italians say. Oh, and pleased to see the section above this, too! Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Justlettersandnumbers, That was awfully nice of you. Thanks,Vexations (talk) 01:59, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Nagarro page

Hi Vexations, Since you have marked that Nagarro needs non primary sources, I am sharing some links. Please let me know if these meet notability guidelines. Buzztrack (talk) 11:40, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Buzztrack, do you seriously think that is an independent source? Come on. It's a press release. Marketscreener? It says at the bottom of the page: Allgeier SE published this content on 14 August 2019 and is solely responsible for the information contained therein.. And you want to know if I think these meet notability guidelines? Of course they don't. Vexations (talk) 12:21, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Takealot Company Edits

Hi there!

Thanks for flagging my error. This was purely unintentional and I have updated my UserPage accordingly. Please let me know of whatever edits are required to remove the COI and I will happily do so! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JasonWarnerSA (talk • contribs) 13:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

JasonWarnerSA, I have added the connected contributor template to the talkpage of Instructions on how to handle your conflict of interest are in the message on your talk page. Vexations (talk) 13:49, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Vexations - much appreciated! I will update accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)


I'm glad the Hotjar page finally was allowed to be created. Did you eventually reconsider your decision? Pilot333 (talk) 16:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) the sourcing on that page is all puffed up from nothing-- one word mentions and paid coverage in bad sources. Nominated for deletion.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Pilot333, no. Vexations (talk) 22:41, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I didn't know TPS was a thing lol. Pilot333 (talk) 23:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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How did you find archived article?

Hi @Vexations:! Hope you're doing well. I saw that you found an archived article over at the Nakamura talk page, and I was wondering how you did that. I did not find it when I was doing my research, and it would be useful to be able to more easily find archived pages.

Did you search directly on the Internet Archive? Did it come up in whatever search engine you were using? Just curious. Thanks! Jlevi (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Jlevi, I don't remember exactly, but google finds that links to a server that no longer exists, but the archive had a copy. Vexations (talk) 18:44, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Somehow I didn't think of looking at non-RS sources at all. I suppose there's something one can glean from them at times.Jlevi (talk) 19:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion notifications

Please be careful using Twinkle to notify users of speedy deletions. Unus Annus was originally a redirect overwritten by a new user multiple times. Jalen Folf (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

JalenFolf, you wouldn't want to let this continue though would you? Delete and salt seems appropriate at this point. Vexations (talk) 21:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Nicola López (artist)

Hello! Just a heads up that I put the blp sources tag back on Nicola López (artist), since nine of the shows are unsourced. I think it was distilled from a CV somewhere, so the shows need to be checked and have dates and sources added. Hope all is well. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 20:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

ThatMontrealIP, I'll either find the sources or remove the entries. You know how I feel about copy/pasting CVs and sourcing. I wish we could have a bit more text about the work. From reading the article alone, I'd have no idea what it's like. Fortunately, there's enough info in the sources. I like Trevor Paglen's very accessible piece in the Brooklyn rail for example. Vexations (talk) 20:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Excellent. This is actually an article that I saved form speedy deletion, as it had some copyvio material in it. I'm not much on article expansion, so your efforts would be appreciated!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 20:50, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Here is a pretty good article on Nicola López. Bus stop (talk) 03:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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