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Thank you very much for cleaning up my edits to Freaks.
I see on your page that you are interested in page mergers. It might be a bit complicated, but it seems to me that the page If and only if should be merged into the page Logical biconditional, or maybe the other way around. Mechachleopteryx: (talk) 20:32, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- That would make sense, Mechachleopteryx GenQuest "scribble" 00:13, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Mechachleopteryx I was reviewing/archiving my talk page, and thought, "What the heck, I'll slap the merge request banners on the two pages for you and see what develops. Then I found THIS. The same merger was proposed about nine or ten years ago, and was overwhelmingly voted down. I doubt that that consensus will have changed much since then. For now, I suspect that a review of that discussion would be your first step if you wish to pursue the merge. Sorry for such a long delay on this. Kindest regards, GenQuest "scribble" 14:32, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Merge assistance
Hi @GenQuest:,
I hope you are well. You responded to my request for help a month ago at Talk:Modern history of Los Angeles (where we were trying to reverse a split back to History of Los Angeles. You were kind enough to help close the discussion and write up on it, but you finished with saying one of the discussion participants should execute the merger. As no one else has done so thus far, I suppose I should step up and do it. But as much as I have searched, I am having trouble figuring out what to do. Am I just moving content manually to the original History of Los Angeles from the split articles? Is there a mechanism I use? Any advice/help you provide would be immensely helpful, as I am not so well versed in merging, but this is definitely a task that needs to be done on an article as important as LA's history. I thank you in advance for any help you can offer. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, CT, They are sometimes complicated. If you'd rather have a mergist do it, I understand. It would just take a bit of patience on your part. I can eventually get to it, but am extremely busy with RL events/work right now, and will be for the next ten days, so it may be a bit. It is also now part of the looooong "To Be Merged" que, (that is unfortunately running at about 14 months). I'll try to prioritize it in the near future if no one else gets to it. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 02:25, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- @GenQuest: Hope you are well! I appreciate your help in the matter and your offer for helping more down the line! I've taken it upon myself to sort out the merger with the help of Wikipedia:Merging#How to merge and completed the reversal of the split of History of Los Angeles. Just wanted to let you know so you don't feel pressured to put this on your plate (which I'm sure is very full already). I will be focusing in the next few days on trimming the merged article and making it more cohesive, but I thank you for all your help and advice. All the best my friend, Cristiano Tomás (talk) 22:01, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- You're quite welcome, Cristiano! ~GQ
- @GenQuest: Hope you are well! I appreciate your help in the matter and your offer for helping more down the line! I've taken it upon myself to sort out the merger with the help of Wikipedia:Merging#How to merge and completed the reversal of the split of History of Los Angeles. Just wanted to let you know so you don't feel pressured to put this on your plate (which I'm sure is very full already). I will be focusing in the next few days on trimming the merged article and making it more cohesive, but I thank you for all your help and advice. All the best my friend, Cristiano Tomás (talk) 22:01, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Kashok121 (10:47, 2 October 2021)
Hello, my question is. The unknown gay does create our official account on Wikipedia ? Kya Wikipedia mera data dusre logon mai shre karega? --Kashok121 (talk) 10:47, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Kashok121, Your question is unclear. Please clarify what you need. GenQuest "scribble" 17:54, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, Kashok121, got it through translator: "Will Wikipedia share my data with other people?" nahin, vikipeediya aapaka deta saajha nahin karata hai. haalaanki, aapake dvaara banaee gaee koee bhee saamagree, aapake dvaara (jab aapane apana khaata banaaya tha) laisens praapt hai ki kisee ko bhee samaan roop se saajha karane aur saajha karane ke lie mupht upayog kiya ja sake. isaka mool roop se matalab hai ki yah saamudaayik saamagree ban jaatee hai, aur vikipeediya ko sampaadit karane vaale kisee any vyakti dvaara ise badala ja sakata hai, aur bhavishy mein ise kopee aur badala ja sakata hai - aap jo bhee likhate hain usake maalik nahin honge. GenQuest "scribble" 18:04, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Question from WCG HQ (14:02, 2 October 2021)
How do I create my own page? --WCG HQ (talk) 14:02, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- WCG HQ, just add something on your user page (see the tab up above). Click on your red name and a page will open. Type anything and save. "Hello" works. That will turn your user page link and your u-name blue. You already have created an account, since you already have a username.
- As far as content goes, look around at other users and get some ideas for what you want on your page. Look at their edit tab to see the wiki-code used to create the page. You can highlight and copy and paste bits to your page, or start learning code. You should use your Sandbox page to play around in and see the results of the wiki-code before you publish to your user page. Hope that helps, GenQuest "scribble" 17:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Klocks Crossing
Hi, do you have any sources that show legal recognition of Klocks Crossing, Ohio or status as a populated place? I don't believe GNIS is reliable for this (see current RfC at WP:RSN) and the History of Clinton County source only mentions a charcoal burning operation and a whistle stop. I'm leaning towards AfD but would reconsider if it meets WP:GEOLAND or has potential for expansion. –dlthewave ☎ 02:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Question from Lokesh Pal17 on Bukka Raya I (09:37, 3 October 2021)
They are from Dhangar community --Lokesh Pal17 (talk) 09:37, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- Forwarded. GenQuest "scribble" 15:04, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
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Question from Romzre (17:16, 23 November 2021)
Hello GenQuest, We just released the beta of Sievable.com, our filter-based search engine. Like wikipedia, anyone can add new content and edit existing content. We are looking for contributors and I think that some Wikipedians could be interested in our project. For instance, it could be useful to search for wikipedia articles. Do you have any suggestion on how to make the project known to wikipedia contributors to see if anyone wants to help?
Thank you very much! --Romzre (talk) 17:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- Romzre, unfortunately, I am very, very busy right now in RL, and don't have a ready answer for you regarding a blast announcement, or even the guidelines for such. Please direct your question to the Wikipedia Teahouse. Someone there will be able to address your question in a more timely fashion than I can at the moment. In the meantime, best of luck in your new endeavor. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 14:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- GenQuest, thank you very much for you reply. I will ask on the Teahouse as you suggested! Regards, Romzre (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
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Edit reverted without comment
Hi, you reverted my edit to Benjamin Tallmadge which documents his connections to slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_Tallmadge&diff=prev&oldid=1057216544
Best as I can tell, this is an "advanced independent research thesis", published under the purview of an accredited university with a $2.5 billion endowment, reviewed by an associate professor of Boston College, citing appropriate primary sources, and is still up on that university's website today (i.e. it has not been retracted).
I carefully went through the document and added relevant documentation on Tallmadge's personal life. For comparison, George Washington mentions the slaves he owned in the lede, as well as an entire article: George Washington and slavery.
Reverting about an hour's worth of careful work, with direct inline citations of exact page numbers for anyone to verify, without any comment as to why, strikes me as a good way to worsen the perceived lack of editors on Wikipedia. See ex.
(2013) https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-editors-decline-wikimedia-fellows/
(2017) https://www.vice.com/en/article/7x47bb/wikipedia-editors-elite-diversity-foundation
Why did you revert the edit?
- As explained in the edit summary, see WEIGHT. GenQuest "scribble" 05:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi GenQuest,
I am Petros Apostolopoulos, a Ph.D. candidate in Public History at North Carolina State University. My Ph.D. project examines how historical knowledge is produced on Wikipedia. If you are interested in participating in my research study by offering your own experience of writing about history on Wikipedia, you can click on this link https://ncsu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9z4wmR1cIp0qBH8. There are minimal risks involved in this research.
If you have any questions, please let me know. Petros Apostolopoulos, paposto@ncsu.edu Apolo1991 (talk) 15:15, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Petros; I will contact you over the holidays (Dec 23-Jan 2), if that's OK. GenQuest "scribble" 14:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
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I am Petros Apostolopoulos, a Ph.D. candidate in Public History at North Carolina State University. My Ph.D. project examines how historical knowledge is produced on Wikipedia. If you are interested in participating in my research study by offering your own experience of writing about history on Wikipedia, you can click on this link https://ncsu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9z4wmR1cIp0qBH8. There are minimal risks involved in this research.
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hydrophobic sand doesn't like water and is also called magic sand. hyrodropibc sand is stupid and i hate it so don;t use it. it also does not taste good so dont eat it it is gross. hyrdotpreic snad is illegal in 28 countries which inclue yemen, germany, saudi arabia, china, and russia. hieroglyphic sand was evented by the egyptians in 100 BC to have a yummy snack when they are big chillin on the beach. when heroic sand was made the superheros batman and superman were also made alongside it in a
hydrophobic sand doesn't like water and is also called magic sand. hyrodropibc sand is stupid and i hate it so don;t use it. it also does not taste good so dont eat it it is gross. hyrdotpreic snad is illegal in 28 countries which inclue yemen, germany, saudi arabia, china, and russia. hieroglyphic sand was evented by the egyptians in 100 BC to have a yummy snack when they are big chillin on the beach. when heroic sand was made the superheros batman and superman were also made alongside it in a lab accident. magic sand also created wizards when it was exposed to humans beer./ [1]
- Thanks. GenQuest "scribble" 16:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- Did you make a new friend? --ARoseWolf 16:03, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! The redirect of the article you have merged is being discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_2#Bishop_in_the_Eastern_Orthodox_Church. Veverve (talk) 02:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hi Gen,
It's been a few months since we worked on anything, but I enjoyed the collaboration between us. I'm working on creating articles for rivers, streams and mountains in my area in which we can find established reliable sources historically agreeable for article creation on geological subjects. I've started with Wild River. I thought it would be a challenge for me because it would be so easy to add original research because I know the rivers, streams, lake and mountains very well but because of constraints found in policy I will have to only use sources that are deemed reliable and only include the information those sources provide. I have found maps and some explanation by Robert Marshall from 1931. There is a hint to a private publication but no link to it. I can also find plenty of topographical maps but maps only get you so far. If you have some time and would like to collaborate more I am so willing to work with an amazing editor as yourself. If not I still think you are amazing so my opinion of you will be altered none regardless. It's just refreshing to work with someone sometimes. Once Wild River is completed my plan is to move on the Wild Lake. Sources will be critical as we are very remote here and notability will be based on not only that it exists but that it and the area is described. --ARoseWolf 16:27, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, Rose, first off, I am so pleased that you have overcome the recent challenges facing you. That attests to your strength of spirit, and it terribly gladdens me (to wax poetic). Well done! As far as collaboration, just let me know what you need. RL is tying my hands a bit currently, as I took a third-party contract with Google that is taking up a yuuuuge amount of my time. I don't get to hang here lately as much as I would like. (But, this—too—shall pass.) I will review the articles and offer suggestions as time allows. Let me know what you need, and I promise to get to it at my earliest possibility. Your wiki-friend and compadre, GenQuest "scribble" 02:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words, my friend. There is never any rush. I always fancy Wikipedia like a slow written book. Write a chapter here. Write a chapter there. Never really getting into a rush because it is never really going to be fully written. It tells the tale of the human species. It grows and expands with us. I know you are busy. I just immediately thought of you as I was pondering where to go with the articles. Your advice, insight, suggestions and edits are always welcome. I'm not sure how much detail about this area of Alaska can be found in reliable sources but there should be a fair bit in government surveys and documents. I found copies of some information online in university libraries. It's very easy to write an article if only using my own knowledge but that is the challenge I wanted. Find the sources and only write about what is found despite all of this OR stuck in my head. lol --ARoseWolf 12:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- A suggestion: I would focus on only the populated places on your list, as areas that are not populated tend to get the axe eventually, unless highly notable on their own. GenQuest "scribble" 13:37, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- We aren't a very populated area to begin with. lol In the entire Yukon-Koyukuk Flats we only have about 5,500 people. It's an area slightly larger than the size of Montana. Look at the article as it is now and let me know what you think so far. --ARoseWolf 17:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- There hasn't been much of any mining on any of these rivers or creeks since the late 1990's and early 2000's. I believe there is still one functioning placer camp on Michigan Creek. We purchased most of the remaining cabins with the resort on the lake in 2018. There are 10 total cabins with the remains of a few scattered along the creeks. There are three landing strips in the area, two around the lake and one further down Wild River along Flat Creek where we have three additional cabins. The only way to scoot around is by ATV, dog sled (during winter) or bush/float plane. There is an airfield at Bettles and a location for float planes just south of the town of Evansville in a small lake. Most of our supplies fly into Bettles and then up to us. --ARoseWolf 18:12, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- We aren't a very populated area to begin with. lol In the entire Yukon-Koyukuk Flats we only have about 5,500 people. It's an area slightly larger than the size of Montana. Look at the article as it is now and let me know what you think so far. --ARoseWolf 17:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- A suggestion: I would focus on only the populated places on your list, as areas that are not populated tend to get the axe eventually, unless highly notable on their own. GenQuest "scribble" 13:37, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words, my friend. There is never any rush. I always fancy Wikipedia like a slow written book. Write a chapter here. Write a chapter there. Never really getting into a rush because it is never really going to be fully written. It tells the tale of the human species. It grows and expands with us. I know you are busy. I just immediately thought of you as I was pondering where to go with the articles. Your advice, insight, suggestions and edits are always welcome. I'm not sure how much detail about this area of Alaska can be found in reliable sources but there should be a fair bit in government surveys and documents. I found copies of some information online in university libraries. It's very easy to write an article if only using my own knowledge but that is the challenge I wanted. Find the sources and only write about what is found despite all of this OR stuck in my head. lol --ARoseWolf 12:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Fabuloso
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Removing content
Please don't remove problematic content from drafts that are already marked for speedy deletion because of said content. The autobiography Draft:Zakarya_Khan_Yousafzai met the requirements to be deleted under CSD G11 and your removal of the content caused it to no longer meet this criterion. Now the draft, still with some of this individual's information, remains when it should have been removed. Thanks. Uhai (talk · contribs) 00:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- You know, everything has a back button around here. GenQuest "scribble" 13:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hi GenQuest, I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself. Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board. Cheers, and hope to see you around, (t · c) buidhe 22:18, 2 June 2022 (UTC) |
- I will consider it. Thanks, Buidhe Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 13:23, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
American Idol merger request
I'm not sure of the process as I've never outsourced a merge before. Is this merge complete now? Do you plan to redirect the musical article? Am I allowed to do so? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 20:00, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- I moved the most relevant, notable, and sourced bits of material over (so, not much). I'm not planning to complete a merge at this time. You could go ahead and do a BOLD redirect if you want. I really can't believe that article passed AfD. GenQuest "scribble" 14:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- LOL well, it was a no-consensus vote. Think I'll go ahead and redirect it. That other guy's position seems to be "I didn't give you permission to redirect...but if you do..." Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
What do I say?
Gen, how do I say thank you? What do I say that helps me end my time here? Walk away silently? How? This community has been such a huge part of my life for two years. I have read three times as much as I have edited. There are editors and former editors that I have read all of their talk page discussions and all of their edits. Like a sponge I have soaked up every piece of knowledge I could. I can't just be given these gifts and walk away without saying something. So here I am. Thank you for your understanding at times when none was offered from anyone else. Thank you for opportunities to work closely with you. It gave me insight into who you are which is an incredible editor and human being. Thank you for being here for me with kind words last year when I struggled with illness. I look forward to reading more from a distance as just an anonymous admirer of your work on this amazing encyclopedia. --ARoseWolf 16:31, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- ARoseWolf, I hope you enjoy the view from your travels elsewhere, and that you remember WP as at least an interesting waypoint on your life's journey. Know that you will always be welcomed back here, long term or short. Take your break and—perhaps—the change in perspective will once again draw you back to us... one can only hope. You've been and are an amazing editor, and you have left your mark here. Don't ever forget that.
- Your wiki-friend, GenQuest "scribble" 16:55, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the Wombat and I would like for it to stay and for you to keep watch over my talk page when I'm not here. You are such an amazing wiki-friend. --ARoseWolf 15:15, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 51
Books & Bytes
Issue 51, May – June 2022
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Not fun
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- Oh no, I'm glad you came through it. None of us here have gotten it and hopefully it stays that way. --ARoseWolf 19:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- I actually jumped the gun there, posting that box. The thing actually doubled back on me, and the difficulty breathing had me worried there for a bit. But everything is good now. Just a short hospital stay. It was harder dealing with the quarantine on a waaaay over-extended trip to Chicago, truth be told; and no thanks to the worthless vaccines. GenQuest "scribble" 15:41, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Notice of Arbitration Incidents noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Elijahandskip (talk) 11:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just a heads up, this is the AN/I discussion and you are not the editor in question. Notifying you because a merger you participated in and later WP:SNOW closed was reverted by the editor in question and mentioned in the AN/I. Elijahandskip (talk) 11:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Done GenQuest "scribble"
Trouted
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
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You have been trouted for: forgetting to sign at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 puma sightings in Santiago (2nd nomination). But it happens to the best of us. Cheers! ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 17:32, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, the covid really does fog-up the old mind. Sorry about that, chief. GenQuest "scribble" 12:59, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Urban legend
Hi GenQuest, I'm not sure I understand your edit summary when reverting my recent edit on Urban legend. What was your concern with "factual claims circulated as true"? Perhaps you were reading 'factual' as meaning "true" while I was using it according to its second definition, "pertaining to or consisting of objective claims". The issue I am addressing is that some "urban legends" are not stories in the usual sense of a narrative of events, but rather untrue objective claims. The article contains a few examples, e.g. "the rock singer Courtney Love is the granddaughter of Marlon Brando", "eating watermelon seeds will result in a watermelon growing in the stomach". Goffman82 22:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, Goffman82. Sorry it's taken me a while to reply. You must be referring to this:
- [original]: An urban legend or contemporary legend is a genre of folklore comprising stories circulated as true, especially as having happened to a "friend of a friend" or family member, often with horrifying or humorous elements.
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- [your change]: An urban legend or contemporary legend is a genre of folklore comprising stories or factual claims circulated as true, often with horrifying, humorous, or cautionary elements.
- I did the revert for clarity. Your insertion of the phrase "factual claims" doesn't make sense to me, as it is immediately followed by: "circulated as true," Are there Urban Legends that are actually true? If one is true, then it wouldn't be a legend. (Or am I reading it wrong?) That wording just seems rather awkward and redundant to me, especially in the first line of the LEDE. I will add back the bit about "cautionary" though – I like that, and it's a good point. Thanks for your work here. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 13:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi GenQuest, thanks for your reply. Yes, that's the edit I was referring to. I agree that the word 'factual' is a confusing wording in this context. I do mean 'claims that are not true that are circulated as true'. I'm trying to capture the significant portion of 'urban myths' that are not narrative stories in the usual sense but simply untrue statements — like the examples that I quoted above about Courtney Love and watermelon seeds. My guess is that these are more often referred to as 'myths' in popular culture, not 'legends'. And since 'urban myth' redirects to the urban legend article, I think it's important to capture that meaning in the lede. Do you have a better suggestion for wording? How about "...stories or specious claims circulated as true" or "...stories or fallacious claims circulated as true." Goffman82 18:40, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Goffman82, Yes, I think either of those would work better. Your choice. Thanks for the reply. GenQuest "scribble" 03:01, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
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How do I create a new article? --Coop Slice (talk) 11:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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GOCE drive questions
Thanks for your corrections here! I didn't realize Viejas Arena was a request. Where was that requested? And do the word counts you corrected include the bonuses? ––FormalDude (talk) 04:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- You're welcome, FormalDude. The guys figure the bonuses after the contest, so don't add them in now, but do add the *R and *Os (Os count the most – focus on those). See >>>HERE<<< for the listing of articles by month. The ones from last year give the most bonus points. Have at it! GenQuest "scribble" 04:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- How exactly are you getting those word counts? I'm unable to recreate them using wordcounter.net or any script. ––FormalDude (talk) 04:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- FormalDude: Open the article to edit. Highlight and copy the article from Infobox down to just above the References section. Go to wordcounter.net and paste in the huge box, your stats will appear to the right. You can also use the Page size tool in your left-margin menu links, but that requires you to have the java script loaded to your pagesize.js files scripts page. That one will skip the tables and bulleted text though, so I usually don't use it. Hope that helps. GenQuest "scribble" 05:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- Are you sure you're being accurate? Viejas Arena for example you marked as 1042, but it seems to be closer to half that. Even including the words from the TOC, headings, infobox, and references I only get to about 700 or so. ––FormalDude (talk) 05:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- FormalDude: You have to go to the article as it was from before your edits. You have to copy and paste from the edit screen, not the read screen. I copy pasted from ((Infobox venue to * [[List of NCAA Division I basketball arenas]] and just got 1006 words. include the IB and any tables that you actually copyedit. Leave off if you normally skip anything. GenQuest "scribble" 05:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- The FAQ says if you're not using the script
you should remove extraneous items that would not normally be counted by the prosesize word count tool, such as taxoboxes, images and their captions, templates, references, notes etc.
––FormalDude (talk) 06:25, 16 September 2022 (UTC)- You may want to skim the project talk page for further insight and other suggestions. If you copyedit it, count it. If you skip tables and infoboxes, don't count them. same with large tables. Some people don't touch them. I, myself, do more than basic c/e, I'll check and add references; add, remove, and move content; redo the layout and organization, etc.; and use javatools (org refs, auto-ed, stub sorter, rater, etc.) on most articles as well. Do what's fair to you. Some people will only use the Page Size gadget, or Prosize. They will skip any boxes, tables, or bulleted lists and paragraphs. It's really up to you. I also don't add the other non-listed articles I c/e during the month, either, as it's a backlog elimination, and I don't want to add to that – I just do them. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 16:01, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- The FAQ says if you're not using the script
- FormalDude: You have to go to the article as it was from before your edits. You have to copy and paste from the edit screen, not the read screen. I copy pasted from ((Infobox venue to * [[List of NCAA Division I basketball arenas]] and just got 1006 words. include the IB and any tables that you actually copyedit. Leave off if you normally skip anything. GenQuest "scribble" 05:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- Are you sure you're being accurate? Viejas Arena for example you marked as 1042, but it seems to be closer to half that. Even including the words from the TOC, headings, infobox, and references I only get to about 700 or so. ––FormalDude (talk) 05:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- FormalDude: Open the article to edit. Highlight and copy the article from Infobox down to just above the References section. Go to wordcounter.net and paste in the huge box, your stats will appear to the right. You can also use the Page size tool in your left-margin menu links, but that requires you to have the java script loaded to your pagesize.js files scripts page. That one will skip the tables and bulleted text though, so I usually don't use it. Hope that helps. GenQuest "scribble" 05:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- How exactly are you getting those word counts? I'm unable to recreate them using wordcounter.net or any script. ––FormalDude (talk) 04:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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Books & Bytes – Issue 52
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Issue 52, July – August 2022
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September drive bling
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Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 4th Place | |
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Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 5th Place | |
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to GenQuest for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 10,201 words – during the GOCE September 2022 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 18:36, 6 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Yikes!!! Thank you. GenQuest "scribble" 22:40, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Question from FryLegal (08:01, 13 October 2022)
Hi, I would like to create a page. How do I that please? --FryLegal (talk) 08:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- @FryLegal:The simplest is to use the Wikipedia search bar for the name of the page you want to create. If it does not already exist, you'll be asked if you want to create it. It's probably better, however, to create your first article in your sandbox. There should be a link to it at the top of any page you view on Wikipedia.
invalid / malformed MRBs
Hi – I noticed that in the summaries for your edits removing the merge banners I added at Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen and Yemen Arab Republic, you wrote "Invalid request" and "mal-formed MRB", respectively. Please let me know what was invalid / malformed about them so that I can do it better next time. Joriki (talk) 05:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Joriki. The problem is too many actions needing to take place to make the request valid. The North Yemen page is, once again, a disambiguation page. (See comment on action by CMD at Talk:North Yemen). That complicates things a bit. I would suggest simplifying your request to first attempt to get consensus to merge Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen and Yemen Arab Republic alone, then tackle merging the resultant article (if there is one) to the North Yemen article later. If that is the course you wish to proceed with, then add the merge request banners to those two articles. Put the discussion link pointing to a "Merge Discussion" sub-section of the talk page that will still exist after the merge is completed (I suggest the Yemen Arab Republic article). Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 05:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
Question from Levaugh123 on Talk:Islands (regional unit) (01:13, 29 October 2022)
Hello .... how can I get the opportunity to work and live with in the island? --Levaugh123 (talk) 01:13, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'd suggest you purchase a boat. GenQuest "scribble" 17:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 53
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Issue 53, September – October 2022
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Question from AnkitPrajapati11 (10:37, 19 November 2022)
Hi Sir, I would like to change the logo of the company with the name MKU (company). As the company has done rebranding, and its logo in Wikipedia is an old logo, I would like to replace it with the latest logo, kindly help to make that possible. Regards, Ankit --AnkitPrajapati11 (talk) 10:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- @AnkitPrajapati11: hello. Do you have a jpeg of the Logo you wish to use? That would have to be uploaded to the commons file area first. I can help you with that if you have a logo picture file. Let me know. Yours, GenQuest "scribble" 15:54, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes Sir, I have the jpg logo of the company, the company page is as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKU_(company) , logo i am attaching here for your reference.
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Logo-MKU-Limited.jpg/220px-Logo-MKU-Limited.jpg)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AnkitPrajapati11 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- AnkitPrajapati11, I substituted your provided logo. Thanks. GenQuest "scribble" 21:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Apology
Sorry if I seemed uncooperative with the 1967 Oak Lawn tornado outbreak. I was doing multiple things at once and was just a little annoyed at the time. I hope to improve with that in the future as that has been a consistent problem for me here. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:19, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Apology gladly accepted; and I fixed the issue myself. –GenQuest "scribble" 01:04, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Merger proposal
Hello. I proposed to merge Liga Femenina (Peru) into Peruvian Primera División Femenina and I think it's been long enough to make a decision. I strongly believe that the merger should proceed. Please help me finish the process. --Elelch (talk) 18:47, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Elelch, hi! It's getting to the top of the cue, so I'll be able to look at it in the next 10 days or so, if someone doesn't beat me to it. GenQuest "scribble" 06:18, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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Thomas Sowell revert
Hi,
Just wanted to let you know why I added [movement = Conservatism in the United States] to the infobox on this page.
The page for Template:Infobox person mentions that information under the movement parameter "can be social, political (non-party), artistic, philosophical, literary, cultural, etc." Seeing how Sowell is such a prominent member of the conservative movement, I thought I would list it there.
Cheers. Ottawajin (talk) 14:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Ottawajin I see what you're talking about. I find that particular IB parameter description not well thought out; but until changed, I have no objection to you adding the info back since it's in the docs. I use the rule of thumb: "not everything belongs in the InfoBox" to generally edit, as some IB parameters really don't belong in them (and are only due to undiscussed bureaucratic and scope creep). Thanks for bringing that up, and happy editing! Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 14:54, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
The Super Mario Bros Show talk page
You have archived most of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!'s talk page. I have no problem with this, but you have forgotten to provide a link to the archive. Eldomtom2 (talk) 11:54, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Eldomtom2, sorry, corrected. GenQuest "scribble" 14:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
My Wish
I'm not a big believer in luck. I believe even less in uncontrolled fate. I do believe in the human hope, even if it is just a placebo of sorts. Either way, I genuinely wish you a very happy holiday season and peace, health and joy for the new year approaching. Please know that you are appreciated and valued. --ARoseWolf 14:52, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, my wiki-friend. GenQuest "scribble" 15:06, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
About Norodom Ekcharin Wiki
Dear GenQuest,
Thank you so much for cleaning up the page. It looks professional and it’s up to Wiki standard now. As you can already tell, I am not expert in this but I was just trying to help the family. I understand citations are super important when it comes to writing Wiki and it’s still a work in progress. Below are the latest developments:
- The family children are just finished up interview with a reporter, Eric San Juan Hernández, from efe.com about this story. Hopefully the story will be out soon and I will post it as citation on Wiki.
- The Royal Palace of Cambodia has still yet to release official letter about the fake Ekcharin. The Queen had already delisted him and banned him from entering palace. She notified her grandchildren via text messages.
- Veakchiravouth has yet to write his personal account about this matter in his WordPress. This will be used as citation as well.
On the “External links”, I noticed you picked up stories about him being accepted into the family. This is true between 2014 and up to August 2022. This is just pure recklessness from Norodom Yuvaneath’s family which allowed this to happened. It started out innocently and grew into uncontrollable proportion. The DNA events finally put a stop into this madness.
Again, thank you very much for your time on fixing this. I and the family are very appreciated.
KentNewland (talk) 13:54, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- KentNewland, hello, and you're welcome. Glad to clean up any article for the pedia.
- Kent, It would really help if you know of any RELIABLE SOURCES to add to the article. As it NOW stands, there is real danger of the article being totally deleted or merged due to its almost entire lack of sourcing. Also, just so you know, anything published at Wordpress used as a source would be removed from Wikipedia as a non-reliable citation. See wp:Perennial sources for explanation of non-useable sites. You can check efe.com there as well, or ask on the talkpage there if it would be useable if it is not currently listed there. Any third-party, neutrally-published information would be acceptable, even if in a foreign language that can be translated. Are there Cambodian news sources addressing anything stated in the article? Let me know if you need help incorporating anything else into the article.
- Also, it sounds as if you may have personal knowledge and contact with the family. I would caution you that that COI should be declared by you on the article's TalkPage, as you have extensively edited the article. And, if this is so, I would entirely stop editing the article, and use the Wikipedia Edit Request System instead, so an un-involved editor (maybe even me) can review the work before its insertion into the article. There are alot of hoops to jump through before possibly controversial material can be added. (See the extensive Wikipedia Manual of Style if interested.)
- Thanks for your interest in Wikipedia, and let me know how I can help in the future. Happy editing! Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 15:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Norodom Ekcharin for deletion
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DYK nomination of Paul Joseph Cini
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OrphanReferenceFixer: Help on reversion
Hi there! I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. Recently, you reverted my fix to Bloody Mary folklore in popular culture.
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Flag icons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Avoid_flag_icons_in_infoboxes
There is no specific rule here that says never to use flags in info boxes. Flags are used all the time in Infoboxs concerning wars and battles, including ones where some factions do not have an official flag to represent them. Here are a few examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh%27s_War Digital Herodotus (talk) 21:45, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Digital Herodotus: But there actually are rules. Please review the MoS section, wp:INFOBOXFLAGS, they have valuable rules that tell when, and how, it is appropriate to use IB flags. The nations with flags are weighted over other factions that don't have flags, and are a distraction—they seldom add any additional information to the IB. This has been discussed ad nauseum before.
- As to your examples: there certainly are other things that exist in Wikipedia, but, we are not talking about them here. We are discussing your either accidental or intentional edit war. Please respect BRD in your edits and do not revert any reversions to your work without discussing first. (That may get you blocked from editting here.) I am reverting those edits per STATUS QUO. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 23:55, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Paul Joseph Cini
On 13 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Paul Joseph Cini, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Paul Joseph Cini, a Canadian skyjacker, thought that he could evade justice by parachuting from the plane before landing? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Joseph Cini. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Paul Joseph Cini), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Are you related to Elsie Grogan or Lettie Smith? That is how most people find out about Selocta. Mullins315 (talk) 19:55, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- No. Are you? GenQuest "scribble" 22:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
I am- Enoch Mullins — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mullins315 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Cool, Mullins315. I would caution you that you probably shouldn't edit that page much, as you have a COI in the subject. Best to leave that up to the rest of us. Do you have other sources for information on him? I can beef up the article a bit if you do. Right now, it's a bit light on citations. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 21:54, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- (ps: when using talk pages, sign your comments with the four tildes: ~~~~ so people know who made the comment)
Thanks! 19:03, 17 January 2023 (UTC) Mullins315 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mullins315 (talk • contribs)
- You're welcome. GenQuest "scribble" 23:41, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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Archiving
Hi GenQuest. I noted your archiving of the talkpage on Brewing: [1]. There appears to be an issue with OneClickArchiver, as it sent the stale discussion to Archive 1, rather than Archive 3 (or perhaps a new one at Archive 4). I went to raise the matter with the script creator, however, they are blocked: User:Technical 13. I did, then, look at the talkpage of the script: User talk:Technical 13/Scripts/OneClickArchiver and saw that someone else had noticed the same issue, and they were given the advice to "add Template:Archive basics to set the page to archive to". I don't use that script myself, but is that advice something that makes sense to you, and you are able to do? No worries about the archiving issue on Talk:Brewing, I'll take care of that. Regards. SilkTork (talk) 09:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up, SilkTork. I'll take a look. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 15:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Question from Ajodoh (15:18, 19 January 2023)
Hello My name is Jonathan Acholoh, you've been assigned to me as my mentor --Ajodoh (talk) 15:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- "Hi, Jonathan. Welcome to Wikipedia. GenQuest "scribble" 16:57, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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Question from FULBERT (13:40, 25 January 2023)
Hello, and glad to see I have a mentor (and thank you in advance!). We have never been here too long to need somebody to talk to! Question -- I declared a COI and requested a review of an edit I believe needs to be made, now over 2 months ago, though their is a COI backlog. Do you know any body who does COI review or can otherwise look at my somewhat simple edit request and see if I can be approved to do it (or somebody else to do it?)? Thank you. --FULBERT (talk) 13:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- FULBERT Hi. welcome aboard. The backlogs are long sometime. I can take a look at it. GenQuest "scribble" 17:06, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- GenQuest Thank you for your help; much appreciated. --FULBERT (talk) 08:49, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Removal of merge templates
Hello. I wonder why you removed the merge templates on "Pick a Bale of Cotton" and "Pick a Bale o' Cotton"? Was it a misuse or some disagreement with the idea of the merge? Fred Gandt · talk · contribs
17:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, Fred Gandt The templates were placed on the talk pages, not the article pages, and were undated and had no merge discussion area set up. That category popped them out on the articles awaiting merge category feed, that I thought I would clean-up real fast. No problem though, as I will either do the merge myself, or post it to the noticeboard. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 17:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply; it's good to know it's in safe hands. I'm up to my eyes in deploying new modules and template code right now so am slightly distracted, but the merge idea and support seems fair 😊
Fred Gandt · talk · contribs
18:07, 2 February 2023 (UTC)- Achilus
Merger complete. Moving on to the song. Happy editing, Fred GenQuest "scribble" 18:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Achilus
- Thanks for the reply; it's good to know it's in safe hands. I'm up to my eyes in deploying new modules and template code right now so am slightly distracted, but the merge idea and support seems fair 😊
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- FYI, I restored the merge template per the fact that this merge was done in reverse of the consensus - please fix that, thanks! Andre🚐 21:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- And now I see that the original merge wasn't quite set up right for the templates, so apologies for reverting that, but instead of me properly creating a new move discussion, can you please just change it so that "of Cotton" is the title per the merge discussion that you didn't close? Andre🚐 22:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- On second thought I tagged it as a "requested move" but feel free to remove that if you are going to take care of it. Thanks. Andre🚐 22:09, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Will do. It will be a couple of hours, though, as I have errands to perform right now. Raise a glas to
confusionConfucius. GenQuest "scribble" 22:19, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Will do. It will be a couple of hours, though, as I have errands to perform right now. Raise a glas to
A goat for you!
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I hope you like goats. You now have a goat. This is your goat.
Fred Gandt · talk · contribs
20:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Why, thanks! (I think...
) I'll keep it with my wombat. GenQuest "scribble" 20:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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Question from Wanderingwicks (14:39, 6 February 2023)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
Hi there ZI Jony / GenQust! Our goal is to contribute encyclopedic-level resources for renowned Architects throughout the Northeast United States. We're starting off with Charles Hilton - we've leveraged Wikipedia's "best-practices" documentation and referenced existing Architect's wikipedia pages to ensure ours is equal if not better in its tone. Please advise us on the best way to proceed with publishing this article, as we intend to contribute many more! --Wanderingwicks (talk) 14:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wande]]ring, See message at Draft talk:Charles Frederick Hilton III . GenQuest "scribble" 23:00, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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Question from Hashi1919 (15:53, 13 February 2023)
Helo... Since I am new in this field so please let me know how to write an article in well defined manner. Thanks --Hashi1919 (talk) 15:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Heated argument at PBS Kids talk page
Jackthewriterguy12 and Itspeeebs have been engaged in a heated verbal argument at Talk:List of programs broadcast by PBS Kids for the past few days now. At present it's stalled, but I recommend making a decision on whether or not to merge the pages before the argument sparks up again. 100.7.44.80 (talk) 21:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- See article talk page. GenQuest "scribble" 03:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- "Heated verbal argument"?! Such is the Internet: party one defends their position with valid arguments; meanwhile, party two offers no meaningful counterpoints. Good grief. Itspeeebs (talk) 16:26, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Use some common sense in archiving discussions
I reverted all of your archiving edits at Talk:Battle of Kings Mountain. If you want to go back and try again feel free. But don't archive sections with recent discussion. At least one section had discussion added today. Please look before such knee-jerk editing. For now I'll consider your actions an oversight. If you do it again it will be vandalism. Sundayclose (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- You did it again, but I assume you had not read the above. I'm glad you had the decency to restore the recent discussion. Now feel free to try a THIRD TIME, but LOOK FIRST. File:Whatevergetsyouthruthenight.png
Sundayclose (talk) 00:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- [EC] You're a little quick on the trigger there, Skippy. That section was being restored. Seriously. These should have been archived years ago. Now people are answering 13-year-old comments made by dead and retired Wikipedians. BTW: You may consider it anything you want to; after all, Common Sense has to go both ways. GenQuest "scribble" 01:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm quick on the trigger??? Pot calling the kettle black. And guess what ... on Wikipedia people are actually allowed to respond to old comments. This could have been avoided easily if you had taken five seconds to actually look at what you were archiving. Sundayclose (talk) 01:24, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- What-ever... GenQuest "scribble" 02:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm quick on the trigger??? Pot calling the kettle black. And guess what ... on Wikipedia people are actually allowed to respond to old comments. This could have been avoided easily if you had taken five seconds to actually look at what you were archiving. Sundayclose (talk) 01:24, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- [EC] You're a little quick on the trigger there, Skippy. That section was being restored. Seriously. These should have been archived years ago. Now people are answering 13-year-old comments made by dead and retired Wikipedians. BTW: You may consider it anything you want to; after all, Common Sense has to go both ways. GenQuest "scribble" 01:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Question from Peponibustami (19:09, 18 February 2023)
How do I edit/change the hyperlink for the actor, Richard Brooks, in this wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wedding_(miniseries)?
The hyperlink currently links to the wrong RIchard Brooks (screenwriter) in Wikipedia, --Peponibustami (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Peponibustami, Hello. You need to change the link into a piped link. Currently you have:
- [[Richard Brooks]]
- that will point to the primary article for the screen writer. That's a non-piped link because the person and the link are the same. You want the actor. so you have to make the link a piped link, which will show 'Richard Brooks' to the reader, but will actually take them the guy you want, the actor. To do this, change the hyper link with a pipe (the "|" - "\" key on your keyboard):
- [[Richard Brooks (actor)|Richard Brooks]].
- Hope that helps, Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 19:31, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Request for feedback re: merge
Hey, I see you're active at WikiProject Merge and thought you might be interested in this discussion about a proposed merge. Do you have a moment to offer any feedback or suggestions? Inkian Jason (talk) 20:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Auberjonois
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First, neither 2019 deaths or 2019 suicides are a container category, both contain articles and aren’t just pointing towards another category. Secondly it’s not over categorizing when it comes to applying categories in relation to death. He died in 2019, 2019 deaths is mandatory. He died via euthanasia, so Deaths from euthanasia is needed. This was a medically assisted suicide, so 2019 suicides applies. This isn’t a pick and choose situation, all apply and there’s no reason for exclusion of any. Please gain a consensus first before removing any as this is a standard not being applied elsewhere. Other names in the 2019 suicides category also have 2019 deaths in their categories, what’s different about Auberjonois? Rusted AutoParts 02:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Rusted AutoParts: Sorry, but I have been nothing but policy compliant in my edits at René Auberjonois.
- 1: Last I looked Category:2019 suicides was firmly a sub-category of—and IS CONTAINED in—Category:2019 deaths. If you look at the bottom of the 2019 suicide category page, you'll see this. I'm also pretty sure that our readers will figure out that if someone died of assisted suicide in 2019, that that person died in 2019. Very redundant.
- 2: Then, we have BRD, that you've ignored twice now. You added that category link, with no edit summary, to the article on Dec 1. I reverted on Dec 2, and later that day once again you tried to sneak it back into the article with no edit summary. I reverted that addition too. Still, no justification made on the TP for it's re-insertion. If you wanted that badly to keep it in, a discussion should have happened then on the article talk page. Instead, you began:
- 3: a slow-motion EDIT WAR to keep the redundant category in the article, as evidenced by your edits and snide edit summaries today.
- 4: Also, "Other Things Exist in Other Articles" is not an argument for inclusion of articles or content. They point out there is still work to do in fixing those other articles too.
- 5 I seemed to have missed the RfC making any particular category mandatory. Perhaps you can put up a link to that discussion?
- In summary: per STATUS QUO, I am going to set the cats back to before your latest re-addition of this content. If you still don't agree with that, take your argument to the Talk Page, and we can get other community eyes on it. Please don't e-war further. Thanks, GenQuest "scribble" 04:31, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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Signature
I find your signature hard to read and would ask that you consider removing the shadowing effect. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, Barkeep49, I greatly lightened the shadow, that should help. After fourteen years, it was time for a change anyway. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 20:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. That definitely makes it far easier to be read. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure where I went wrong
Regarding this revert, I'm not up to speed enough to know whether your concern is (a) ((anchor)) in a sub-header, (b) subst:Anchor in a sub-header, or (c) both. I'm not even sure that there is a difference between a "header" and a "sub-header." Would you please educate me? (FYI, I was basing my edit on text at MOS:RENAMESECTION, MOS:SECTIONCOMMENT, and Template:Anchor/doc#Rationale_for_substitution_in_the_header.) - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Butwhatdoiknow There is no difference in headers or sub headers except in degrees. Anchors in headers are generally discouraged. I think you've misread MOS:RENAMESECTION; anchors, if needed, should immediately follow on the NEXT LINE after the heading, and the simplest is the ((Anchor|-name-)) to use. If the anchor is the same name as the sub-section title, it is only needed if there is a possibility of the section being renamed in the future, as sub-headings automatically generate eponymous anchors.
- I know you have seen all kinds of flags, anchors, links, etc. in headings. They were early on–if not totally banned—tolerated, so there are a bunch out there left over. And other editors see them and sometimes copy that behavior (you'll also see a lot of links in sub-titles on talk pages where they are still tolerated and helpful). Other than special cases that require italic or bolding mark-up, there really shouldn't be anything else in the sub-section titles. The method as described above is cleaner, simpler, and the position of the anchor is not a cause for concern or error. The thing with putting most mark-up inside the header or sub-headers, is they can mess up internal indexing and cause display issues and other undesirable consequences, especially when we consider global computing concerns.
- Of course, you can use the old style mark-up—the hidden comment method—as allowed in MOS:SECTIONCOMMENT (<!--put comments/anchor title here--> or <span class="anchor" id="anchor name"></span>) which can be inserted into sub-section titles, but even its documentation states: "...It is more usual practice to put such comments below the heading..."
- One wikignome to another. my hope is that this helps a bit, and we can make Wikipedia a bit more consistent with our behind the scenes work. Happy editing! GenQuest "scribble" 17:43, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- So should Template:Anchor/doc#Rationale_for_substitution_in_the_header be updated? - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 17:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Probably. GenQuest "scribble" 17:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- So should Template:Anchor/doc#Rationale_for_substitution_in_the_header be updated? - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 17:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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Al Stewart, Year of the Cat
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Thank you for restoring my edit about Bogart's chess playing. However, I was dismayed to see you removed my mention of Al Stewart's Year of the Cat, which was inspired by Casablanca and begins with the line "In a morning from a Bogart movie..." You write "Please do not add the many minor appearances of this historical figure. The section is only for major cultural appearances where Bogart plays a MAJOR part in the sotry ine, or has an ''especially notable role" in what is listed...Random cruft, including TV appearances, and ALL anime//fiction look-alike speculation, WILL BE removed."
I have no idea what "anime/fiction look-alike speculation" is, but Stewart's song "Year of the Cat" reached number 8 on the Billboard Hot 100 and is considered the signature song of a major artist. And, since Stewart's song was inspired by one of Bogart's greatest films and mentions Bogart in the opening line, it is hardly a "minor appearance." If you object to my citing Genius.com, I can cite a different source. But this is hardly a "minor appearance." That Stewart can refer to "the morning from a Bogart movie" to summon a particular atmosphere shows Bogart's iconic status as well as anything. It is certainly no more "minor" than Bertie Higgins's 1981 song Key Largo, which is mentioned under "In popular culture." In fact, Stewart's song is more deserving of mention, as it's a better song. Kevin Charles Schoonover (talk) 15:05, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hey! Kesc4399: You're welcome, About the song tie-in for the article, though, for encyclopedic purposes that is just trivia and random trivial information, with nothing to do with Humphrey Bogart. Even you call it a "mention". It may, however, have a place in the article for the song if properly sourced, and possibly the film article (borderline, but IMO that would still just be trivia). Popular culture sections have to have substantial and significant referencing for their entries, (even though many are currently bloated with the trivial). If you have a source that specifically, and substantially talks about how Bogart—as opposed to the movie or book—significantly inspired the writing and production of the song, then that would be an entirely different matter.
- I think the info that you want to add to Bogart is addressed more clearly and thoroughly in the essay: Wikipedia:"In_popular_culture"_content#Content; (see also the tangential essay Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability)). Hope that helps. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 20:37, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's pretty self-evident that the song was influenced by Bogart, seeing how it begins with the line "On a morning from a Bogart movie..." And here's this, from the Financial Times: "When he watched Casablanca on television, an opening couplet came to him: 'On a morning from a Bogart movie, in a country where they turn back time/ You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre contemplating a crime…'" So yes, Bogart did significantly inspire the writing of the song. And, as I said previously, the fact that Stewart could use the phrase "morning from a Bogart movie" to summon a specific atmosphere shows Bogart's iconic status. The fact that the song was a hit shows that people got what Stewart meant. Another song inspired by Bogart, Bertie Higgins's "Key Largo", is mentioned in the section. If you can tell me why Stewart's "Year of the Cat" is "anime/fiction look-alike speculation", I'll buy you a drink. Actually, if you can tell me what "anime/fiction look-alike speculation" is, I'll buy you a drink. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kesc4399 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Kesc4399 I'm not sure what you are on about anime/fiction for. I never mentioned any of that. What I did write, to summarize, is that Bogart did not inspire that song, his movie did. I'll repeat, again, that it might even make sense to enter your tidbit into THAT movie article (I don't know—I haven't looked at it). But in the Bogart article, it's just a mere mention (see link above); in other words: trivia. As far as "Key Largo", see and understand the essay: OTHER STUFF EXISTS. GenQuest "scribble" 16:02, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's pretty self-evident that the song was influenced by Bogart, seeing how it begins with the line "On a morning from a Bogart movie..." And here's this, from the Financial Times: "When he watched Casablanca on television, an opening couplet came to him: 'On a morning from a Bogart movie, in a country where they turn back time/ You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre contemplating a crime…'" So yes, Bogart did significantly inspire the writing of the song. And, as I said previously, the fact that Stewart could use the phrase "morning from a Bogart movie" to summon a specific atmosphere shows Bogart's iconic status. The fact that the song was a hit shows that people got what Stewart meant. Another song inspired by Bogart, Bertie Higgins's "Key Largo", is mentioned in the section. If you can tell me why Stewart's "Year of the Cat" is "anime/fiction look-alike speculation", I'll buy you a drink. Actually, if you can tell me what "anime/fiction look-alike speculation" is, I'll buy you a drink. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kesc4399 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Further comments can be made at: Talk:Humphrey Bogart#Pop Culture insertions GenQuest "scribble" 14:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
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