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Template is too general

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This is not an outline of Egypt-related dishes and beverages, what's the point of linking to the main articles about tea, coffee etc.? A template for Egyptian cuisine should link to Egypt-specific articles, serving as a "map" too all the Egyptian cuisine articles. Instead of doing that this template is basically trying to summarize the entire Egyptian cuisine article which serves no point. Turnopoems (talk) 13:01, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Chumash11: Before I proceed to edit I would like to clarify a few points to avoid any conflict.
  • Stella is a brand, not a beer type. It does not deserve a spot on this list. If other countries were to add individual brands of beer their lists would be endless.
  • Karkadeh is not only consumed as a herbal tea in Egypt, but also a chilled juice (arguably more common than the former). Therefore it should not be categorized as a tea.
  • What is the purpose of removing extraneous entries? I find that they serve as an incentive and a guide for future articles related to the topic at hand. Similar templates do the same thing.
  • You've also removed entries that aren't extraneous, like keshk, halumi, both features of Egyptian cuisine with sources backing it up. Meanwhile you've left other extraneous entries based on what I assume is personal judgement. Why?
  • You're linking Egyptian breads to generic articles that contain no information about the Egyptian breads. Eish baladi is not a synonym for pita, it is an Egyptian bread with some similar characteristics. Sourdough is also a generic article with no information whatsoever about eish shamsi. It's better for them to be extraneous than misleading.
  • Bamia and besarah are not soups, and I have no idea how anyone could mistake them for soups. The former is a stew eaten with rice or bread and the latter is a bean paste eaten with bread and fried onions.
Thanks in advance. --Turnopoems (talk) 14:02, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Turnopoems: I like the edits you made; they made the template much more specific to Egypt and the red links are useful incentives for future articles. However, I still think Stella deserves a place in the template. It's very widely known around the region as a symbol of Egypt and is the largest beer in Egypt by far (with a third of the market share). Similar templates also include beverage brands (e.g. ((Cuisine of Lebanon)), ((Cuisine of Tunisia)), ((Cuisine of Turkey)), ((Cuisine of Algeria)), and ((Cuisine of Morocco))). These templates don't include every single beverage brand in their respective countries, just one or two notable ones (as would be the case here). Thanks,
--Chumash11 (talk) 16:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Chumash11: No point in disagreeing over such a minor point, I will re-add it. :) --Turnopoems (talk) 10:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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