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[edit]- There are twelve entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.
- ELpoints #3) states:
Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
- LINKFARM states:
There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
- WP:ELMIN:
Minimize the number of links
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- Trim excessive links and remove 2013 career maintenance tag. -- Otr500 (talk) 05:04, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Birth Place controversy
[edit]Rather than Edit War over Everett's birth place, I would like to propose a compromise: Seaforth, Lancashire, (now in Liverpool City Region), England. This compromise serves both purposes of the warring parties. RJ4 (talk) 03:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- We don't need a compromise - the usual practice on this site is well established and clear, and there's no need for an exception here. It was in Lancashire when he was born, and the IP editor's contributions are becoming vexatious. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:48, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. In 1944 Seaforth was in Lancashire. Simple fact. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Correct. Seaforth is in effect a suburb of Liverool. Seaforth is seamless with Liverpool. There are no fields between them. For example, Seaforth Dock is in the port of Liverpool and always has been. Stating it is in Lancashire may give the impression Seaforth is near Burnley, Lancaster, etc, which are quite a way from Liverpool. Stating where Seaforth is now and that it was once in Lancashire is more concise and the reader knows where Seaforth actually is. England was once called Albion, should be have Albion instead of England? No we do not as it is silly to do so, as it is silly to state just Lancashire when Seaforth ceased to be in Lancashire 50 years ago. Seaforth is officially in the Liverpool City Region, which is a legal entity. Even Encyclopedia Britannica states: "Kenny Everett (born December 25, 1944, Liverpool, England". 2A01:4B00:BB18:A600:E738:4C0D:38F4:6829 (talk) 12:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- There is no "controversy" here. In 1944 Seaforth was in Lancashire. That's a fact. One might want to add "Liverpool", but it's really not necessary, Seaforth is one click away, if you want to see where it is. Using county at date of birth is policy at Wikipedia. You could challenge that policy, but here is not the appropriate venue. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes there is no 'controversy' as Seaforth is factually inside the Liverpool City Region and had been for over half a century. It is necessary to mention 'Liverpool' being a major city, as that gives the reader the location immediately - not having to look at a map or click or whatever. The reader should not click on anything at all as it should be clear in the article. Few click anyhow.
- The article needs to be professional looking, not look like something put together by a bunch of kids. 2A01:4B00:BB18:A600:E738:4C0D:38F4:6829 (talk) 13:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- There is no "controversy" here. In 1944 Seaforth was in Lancashire. That's a fact. One might want to add "Liverpool", but it's really not necessary, Seaforth is one click away, if you want to see where it is. Using county at date of birth is policy at Wikipedia. You could challenge that policy, but here is not the appropriate venue. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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Seaforth is factually inside the Liverpool City Region and had been for over half a century
" simply isn't true. Liverpool City Region was created in 2010, according to its own article, so it's not possible for anyone born before 2010 to have been born in Liverpool City Region. Liverpool, on the other hand, has been in existence since 1207. Dr Greg talk 15:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)- Seaforth has been out of Lancashire over over half a century. It is currently inside the Liverool City Region, with the City Region Mayor over Seaforth. 143.58.143.124 (talk) 16:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's completely irrelevant. We use the county when the subject was born, which is this case was 1944. This is Wikipedia policy. I'm not sure how much more plainly this can be explained to you. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:35, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- The county was stated. 143.58.143.124 (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's completely irrelevant. We use the county when the subject was born, which is this case was 1944. This is Wikipedia policy. I'm not sure how much more plainly this can be explained to you. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:35, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Seaforth has been out of Lancashire over over half a century. It is currently inside the Liverool City Region, with the City Region Mayor over Seaforth. 143.58.143.124 (talk) 16:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Liverpool is mentioned, in the first sentence of the "Early life" section:
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Maurice James Christopher Cole was born on Christmas Day 1944 at 14 Hereford Road, Seaforth, 5 miles (8 km) north of Liverpool city centre.
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- Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Liverpool is mentioned, in the first sentence of the "Early life" section:
Read on https://www.queensongs.info/album-data/queen/a-night-at-the-opera now this: Saturday 11th: Kenny Everett plays the yet unreleased 'Bohemian Rhapsody' twice on his radio programme. Saturday 12th: Kenny Everett plays the yet unreleased 'Bohemian Rhapsody' twice on his radio programme, adding up to four times in total over the weekend (not four-teen). 2A02:A45E:B226:1:64F0:14E1:DD8A:B660 (talk) 17:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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