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Need writer‘s (or anyone who's familiar with this article) elaboration in the part of ===Religious views===

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"Islamic schools of law (Madh'hab) have interpreted this as a strict prohibition of the consumption of all types of alcohol and declared it to be haraam ("forbidden"), although other uses may be permitted.[67]" I'm not sure I understand the wordings in bold type (especially other uses), can anybody help elaborate? Thanks. I'm now translating this article into Traditional Chinese.ThomasYehYeh (talk) 11:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Negative effects

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Is it not biased to list these effects as specifically negative over simply toxicological effects? 2A01:4C8:485:F263:8CBD:D27C:816B:65C0 (talk) 09:32, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@2A01:4C8:485:F263:8CBD:D27C:816B:65C0 I agree, this article seems very biased against alcohol and basically equates it to subjecting yourself to rat poison. why is the page for drunkenness the same page as alcohol poisoning?
Buzgie (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Alcohol drinking has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 27 § Alcohol drinking until a consensus is reached. Mondtaler (talk) 19:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Under the influence of alcohol has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 6 § Under the influence of alcohol until a consensus is reached. Mondtaler (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Respiratory depression?

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The article currently reads "At very high blood alcohol concentrations, for example above 50 mM or 0.023%, the respiratory system becomes depressed". The percentage figure is clearly wrong - 0.023% is below the limit for driving in most jurisdictions, and even at 0.23%, although the subject will be drunk, medical intervention isn't usually required. These numbers need to be (a) accurate, and (b), more importantly, cited. There's currently one citation at the end of the paragraph which is not hyperlinked, and (presumably) is only about the percentage of deaths due to alcohol, not the level at which alcohol consumption becomes dangerous. We need a citation for this number, or it should be removed from the article. Tevildo (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I just pulled a random number out of the Pharmacology of ethanol#Relationship between concentrations and effects table. Originally it was "As drinking increases, people become sleepy or fall into a stupor. After a very high level of consumption[vague], the respiratory system becomes depressed and the person will stop breathing." Special:Diff/230484065 is where it came from, I don't see any sources. There is [1] which mentions "slow or irregular breathing" as a "symptom after drinking a lot of alcohol", but it is not specific as to level.
The table on Short-term effects of alcohol is sourced and lists impaired breathing starting at 0.3%.
There are too many overlapping tables and numbers, ideally we should just have one fully-sourced combined table, probably in Short-term effects of alcohol, and some consistent sentence-length summary like "0.1% impairment, 0.5% death" used in every other article with a link to the full table. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 20:19, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the overall structure of our articles on the subject is not good, and is not helped by having this article (Alcohol intoxication, which is mainly about the moral aspects of the subject) as the "default" target. I'd suggest, in the short term, that we use the figure of 0.3% from the Virginia Tech website, which is the source for the figure in the Short-term effects of alcohol page. Tevildo (talk) 10:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. I also moved it up to symptoms as per WP:MEDSECTIONS the pathophysiology section should really be mechanism. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 20:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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